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03-01-22 Radical Transformational Leadership: What does this imply? Guest Hosts Kirsten Gallo and Sudarshan Rodriguez Guest Satjyot Gill Psychologist

In this episode, we explore the use of Radical Transformational Leadership tools and templates across sectors: promoting mental health and wellbeing and advocating for animal rights. RTL change agents take a whole-systems perspective and cultivate the ability to respond to problems effectively and put in place strategies to realize the full potential of people to generate a paradigm shift at the same time. We discover that we all have a unique and important contribution to make, even those of us who are marginalized and are struggling to make ends meet.


Kirsten Gallo served as the head of the National Park Service Inventory and Monitoring Division. She held a variety of positions in the U.S. Forest Service and the National Park Service conducting natural resource monitoring and stewardship of public lands. She holds a doctorate degree in Ecology and has dedicated her career to conserving natural resources and demonstrating interdependence between humans and our environment. She began applying RTL tools and techniques in 2009 and created platforms for leadership in five federal government agencies and NGOs. Kirsten is now working to make RTL a global movement as she works in the fields of the environment, leadership, and finance. Specifically, she’s working to remove chemicals from our food systems and return to regenerative agricultural techniques to support the wellbeing of people and the planet.


Sudarshan Rodriguez is a development professional with experience in disaster management, environmental sciences, environmental economics, policy, and environmental law. He has worked with Dr. Monica Sharma as an RTL practitioner coach since 2010.

After 22 years in the development sector with a variety of organizations, including the United Nations, grassroots organizations, policy think tanks, civil society and academia, he dove into the adventure of setting up the next generation development consultancy and social purpose enterprise called “RTLWorks”. Before founding RTLWorks, he was the Programme Director at Mahatma Gandhi Academy of Human Development, heading a center of the Tata Institute of Social Sciences, Mumbai located in Nagaland, India focusing on Livelihoods and Social Entrepreneurship.

He also delivers and implements Radical Transformational Leaderships ‘learning-in-action programs’ for business and non-profit organizations on different aspects of leadership development for sustainable change.


Satjyot Gill is a practicing Psychologist. She has been a consultant on various projects related to mental health and well-being. Her experience involves setups such as clinics, hospitals, psychiatric institutes, NGO’s and educational institutes. She trusts in the innate potential of all living beings to create an equitable and harmonious world.

Currently she is a consultant on mental health and well-being projects with Indian school of Development Management, Veera Health and Feminist Approach to Technology. She has been volunteering for animal welfare and rights regularly in her personal capacity and follows vegan life style. She believes that all the animals that she has connected with have deeply healed her. She has been practicing “Radical Transformative Leadership” tools since 2018 and has been applying them in her breakthrough initiatives personally, professionally and socially. She has firm faith that an inside out journey of “Radical Transformative Leadership” can transform the human race to create an equitable society.

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